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So far I've been lucky - I've had my 360 over a year and it hasn't died yet. Knock on wood.
But its OK, Metal Gear Solid 4 is almost here, time to buy a PS3.
For Sale: (1) Xbox 360, can only play for one hour, then hardware crashes. Make offer.
My brother just had his 360 die a few days ago.
But, the damage has already been done and the new design and etc, still need to be proven out..We shall wait...
Not one of them has attempted to mod their 360 (though one of them heavily modded his original Xbox).
If the RRoD were simply due to modders, MS wouldn't be setting aside the amount of money it has to deal with the issue, nor would they be dealing with it for free and outside of the warranty period.
Utterly ridiculous. You are so far from right you can't even *see* right. I've personally had three boxes go RRoD. I never even thought of modding any of them. I've not heard of anyone RRoDing their box due to a mod. *Ever*.
You just made that up.
I had my 360 sitting on a shelf below my television, completely open to air and it still died.
I live in Scotland so my bedroom is somewhat freezing, pretty much all the time because I like to keep it colder in here since my PC tower and 360 combined can heat the room up in no time at all if the windows are shut. This one hasn't died yet.. but I have a funny feeling that it will sometime soon, I have 3 years of warranty to find out.
I suppose all 360 consoles are just ticking time bombs, cause turning them on is always a game of russian roulette, will it work, will it not?
I dread the day my 360 fails again. Even though it took just 7 days to get it repaired last time! Which is stellar compared to half of the other complaints about the consoles taking up to 3-4 weeks to be returned to their faithful and now completely braindead owners.
To anyone who's followed the Microsoft Technet stuff.. 9/10 it probably won't work, even if you phone them they will try and make you do the same thing. I phoned them and asked for a box to send it back, but here's the beauty of it all.. In the UK they don't send out boxes, they send you out a god-damned sticker and you have to provide your own box for your 360. How much hassle is that? Luckily my friend had a 20" LCD Widescreen monitor box with all of the original packaging still there and it fit like a glove. As for now, I'm keeping the box that my 360 had when it returned from Hells Workshop.
As for failure rates, everyone I know that has a 360 has had atleast one RRoD.. and that's including having random conversations at college etc. But seriously, the failure rate is something so extremely embarrassing Microsoft won't even publish it and I don't think they will. They probably don't even know what the failure rate is since a lot of people can get theirs repaired locally, or pay for a cheaper service online if their warranty has run out.
An in depth explanation of the RRoD:
One or many of the silver balls on the underside of the GPU has either cracked and/or dislodged. Yup, all it needs is to be one little ball bearing to become loose before you see those 3 red rings. This is the main cause of the RRoD (a.k.a overheating). Heat is a major problem for the 360, this also causes the motherboard to warp and bend, also helping the great cause of getting things loosened up inside.
An unconfirmed, although very common one was when the "Fall" update was released and about a million consoles suddenly died. People all over the internet we're flaring up that this update bricked their console. Noone really knows why, maybe unsupported hardware revisions? I don't know myself even with my technical expertise.
Now you hear of people that have done the "towel-trick" to make their 360 work again. Now what this means is that they are wrapping their 360 in a couple of towels and leaving it for about 10 minutes running. This mainly superheats the GPU and less mainly the CPU inside and makes the balls re-solder inside due to the extreme temps. This trick actually works, and it's un-guarnteed how long it can work for. Days to months, there have been mixed reports.
Good luck with your 360 guys! And I'll hopefully see you on XBL :)
If your 360 works afterall ;)
From the day I dropped it off at UPS it took a total of 14 days for MS to get it back to me, not too bad considering I sent it 2 days before Thanksgiving.
As I dropped it off at UPS in its non-descript white box, the UPS person said "Oh another one". When I picked mine back up, I saw another white box sitting behind the counter.
I did get a 1 month Live Gold card for the problem.
New one is another refurb w/ mfg date of sep '06. Only a matter of time before it dies again I'm sure.
This summer they started selling 360s with better cooling capability (more heat sinks and heat pipes) and shortly after that they came out with the newer, cooler 65nm CPU.
Now the 65nm CPU doesn't make all that much of a difference since it's the GPU that is overheating in most cases, a cooler CPU will mean less heat being generated inside the console which should allow the colling system to work a little more efficiently.
I haven't heard of any 360s with the improved cooling experiencing a RRoD, though Bernie's comment above sounds a bit scary, hopefully it was just a random error that triggered in a brand new unit).
http://3redlightfix-xbox360repairguide.blogspot...
Comment by stu padasso — December 21, 2007 @ 2:53 pm<<<<<<
Where in the hell did you hear that line of crap. All 3 crashes of mine the two my sister got, the 1 from 4 different people i know and the hundreds of complaints online not one person had modded anything. In your thinking I guess were fighting a war in Iraq is because Germany invaded poland?
The red ring of death is said to be caused by lead-free solder points. Lead free solder fails (cracks) at high temps. This also explains why if you perform the "towel" solution, the solder actually melts (at really high temps) and fills in the crack, reestablishing a connection. I'm not 100% sure this is the actual reason why this happens but it seems to be the most logical.
My 2nd xbox just crashed yesterday after 1 hour of use. It was stored in a cool dry place, no where near any heat sources (other then itself), and on an a/v stand (not in a cabinet).
I wrote a nasty email to the service center on how my initial system crashed as well as the refurbished one they recently sent back. I just received their generic response about how sorry they are and some tips to trouble shoot the issue myself. I plan on spending some time with the service center and some MSFT reps. I want answers. I love xbox but hating the hardware. I know each of you dropped your hard earned cash to only get a red eye staring back at you. They’ve got to rectify this.
Ahhhhhh WTF...
Happy Holidays !
I would say the problem's still around.
You may want to have a close look at the following, BEFORE you send it back. The full scoop:http://fixmyxbox360.tumblr.com/
The Repair Centres are becoming overloaded, so you may end up waiting from weeks to months....
Hearing all this stuff about RRoD makes me want to return it to Radioshack nd get a Ps3 but I love 360 nd ijust got halo3, bioshock nd cod 4 so idk
BTW: MGS 4 might not only come out for ps3 so I got my fingers crossed they said that the devlopers don't see the point of selling it only for ps3 when moslty every one in the world has a 360 imean when msg 2 came out it was on both xbox and ps2 so idk hope theii have it for 360 too (knock on wood ppl.)
Just had my 360 in for repair for a problem with the a/v socket. They replaced the console with a "replacement" (for this read reconditioned" unit. Turned it on, played for 10 minutes, got the red ring of death. Great. Another return, another 2-3 weeks without a 360.
Pissed in San Antonio!
By the way, burn out paradise is sick!